sábado, 16 de mayo de 2009

Another response to a theist.

wow you said a lot of things back there... that were just plain wrong. I cant let you go without actually trying to help you understand.

"if He did not create us to be the intellegent beings we are, then why didn't the other creatures on this earth follow suit? Science has many theories on this, I am fully aware that, but there are no facts to prove it, at least not any that science is willing to give God credit for"

First of all, as I explained before science and god... dont get along for the simple reason that science cannot do anything with god. We wont give god credit for anything because it has not been demonstrated that god exists!!! Is that really that complicated?

I already told you that the theory of evolution is a fact. You are close minded, stubborn and in denial. Look up the definition of a scientific theory. The theory of evolution is as solid as the ground i walk on, the rocks theists use to stone people who dont believe and the foundation of my house. Its a fact. Look it up.

The reason why other animals are not as intelligent as we are is because intelligence is a inheritable trait that is not necessary for survival.

A simple google search is sometimes more than enough to answer all these questions you ask about evolution. It really is that simply I really suggest you actually take the time every now and then to ACTUALLY INVESTIGATE these questions. You will find out that science has answered most of them and has EVIDENCE to support them. Your claim on the other hand is VOID of evidence and fails to explain many things about the explanation itself. It redundant.

I really really really cant stress that enough. go to www.google.com and in the search engine type "evolution of human intelligence". Make sure you space all your words and then hit "enter" on your keyboard or click on "search" on your screen.

Intelligence as an adaptation to the challenge of natural selection is no better or worse than any other adaptation, such as the speed of the cheetah or the venomous bite of the cobra. All mutations are here to try to serve a purpose and one purpose only; the perpetuation of the species. If mutation x helps the individual to survive his or her environment and as a result help him pass his genes the gene will be passed on and replicated more often. if on the other hand the mutation is harmful, it wont be passed down. Intelligence helped us in our environment but that doesnt mean intelligence will help ALL species in ALL environments.

Some of this is still a mystery to us, but we have a pretty good idea of how it happened, and we have NO evidence suggesting that a god decided to give our genes a boost 2.4 million years ago.

Evolution explains more than you know, and again... a simple google search will show you how wrong you have been about this. I urge you, for everything that is good in this world, to take the time to learn things, stop living in the dark ages, it is sunny and bright outside. You can come out.

"But then again, that is what your belief is all about. Self."

You are being dishonest again buddy... I have already explained this to you.

You dont know anything about the things I believe in first of all.. you only know about the things that I DONT believe in.

Just because I dont believe in god does not mean I just believe in myself. I dont. I believe in doing what is right for everyone which is why I criticize religion. Religion is desperate to take rights away from the people and getting richer in the process. Faith IS the self-centered biggot. I believe that women have the right to be treated equally. I believe that homosexuals have the right to be happy and be who they are. I know the church is COMPLETELY OPPOSED to those last two which is why I have to keep fighting.

I am not a woman, and I am not gay, so obviously you are wrong about your assertion that I am just about me. All the discoveries that scientists make may grant them fame and fortune but the repercussions of their discoveries ECHO THROUGH TIME. While it may seem selfish for a scientists to want to discover things and understand the universe it really isnt. THanks to their accomplishments we have what we have today. Not thanks to faith.

I dont need god to care about others. Stop lying.

"Speaking of doing the work, how much science did you actually do yourself to come up with your view of reality?"

I love the subject of science in of itself. I love the applications, the end results and the process as well.

But on the other hand, I have also read about religion. A LOT OF BOOKS MY FRIEND. From the god delusion to more than a carpenter. I read more about religion than anything else. I know the subject pretty well and I also read the bible. I know more about the bible than most christians.

Also when I am faced with a question that I cannot answer... I investigate and try to come up with one and here is the catch.. IF I DONT COME UP WITH AN EXPLANATION... I AM HONEST AND I ADMIT I HAVE NO WAY TO EXPLAIN IT YET.

"there is nothing that will make me change what I have experienced as truth, as I am sure you feel the same"

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!!!

I give a damn if the things I believe in are true! if evidence is presented to me and the evidence contradicts things I previously believed in I CHANGE MY VIEWS ACCORDINGLY. It is called being open minded! It is called intellectual honesty! It is what science relies on to progress! The reason why faith is so wrong when it comes to reality and the truth is because faith is not willing or interested in actually finding the truth or knowing anything about reality.

The day evidence for god is presented to me, I WILL BELIEVE IN GOD. I wont worship him because he has a lot of explaining to do but I would believe if the evidence was presented. I am not close minded. I follow the evidence. Wherever it takes me.

"Not even when you criticized my wife"

I never criticized your wife. Dont lie.

Your next two paragraphs are nothing but preaching. NO EVIDENCE. So I skipped them.

"If this is the end of our conversations, so be it. Just know that I did not end it you did"

Actually YOU ended the conversation when you started to preach and failed to provide evidence. Sorry, but again... just because you say x is y doesnt mean it is.

Peace.

Think.

Free yourself.

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