The phrases in quotations are what the opponent said.
You missed the point completely. Obviously your wife "escaped" death, that is YOUR point. What I am telling you is that there is nothing miraculous about that. Improbable, yea, unlikely yes... but thats all. It is not impossible, lots of people survive when they are not expected to, and they are not all christians. Are you telling me that muslims that pray to allah to have mercy on their sick loved ones and they survive is evidence that islam is the true religion?
There is NOTHING special about your claim. Nothing about it surprises me, the only thing that surprises me (not in a good way) is the certainty that you hold and the void of evidence.
"And I do know it was God"
No you dont. You BELIEVE it was god. You have no evidence that god did it, you just believe that god did it. What evidence do you have supporting your claim?
I know you believe it was god, and I know you believe you know. But you dont, it is not true knowledge until you actually demonstrate that it is.
"There are too many things in this life that are still not explained, still not explainable, for mankind to rely on logic and science alone"
I have already said that just because there are unexplained answers DOES NOT MEAN MAGIC MAN DONE IT. Look back 200 years, 500 years one thousand years. Look at all the REAL answers that science has given us, look at all the myths that science has disproved, look at all the TRUE knowledge that science has given us. Science keeps getting better and god keep getting smaller and smaller and smaller.
Just because you say you KNOW something doesnt make it true. You have to do the work, you have to demonstrate that it is true and saying that there is no explanation for it yet IS NOT EVIDENCE AND IT IS NOT AN EXPLANATION.
You must have a pretty backwards view on the way in which reality works. Its ok to not know the answers to things sometimes. You want to know why? BECAUSE WE DONT KNOW THE ANSWERS. Only when we realize that there is something that has no explanation can we actually work towards explaining it. Everytime we do that we realize that the pseudo explanations we had for those things before we silly, stupid and not explanations at all.
We used to look at thunder and say "ay! The gods must be angry" and we actually settled for that "answer" for MILLENNIA. Eventually some people realized how this was not an answer at all and actually bothered to find out if it was true or not. The same can be said about 6 day creation, prayer, resurrections, afterlife etc.
"There is life after this"
PROVE IT. Stop making all these assertions without properly demonstrating that they are actually true. I understand you WISH it were true and that you BELIEVE it is true BUT ITS NOT A FACT.
"It must be sad to wake up everyday with the realization that there is nothing worth living for, there is nothing worth fighting for, there is nothing worth the energy, time, and effort you have invested in this"
You are unbelievable.
My life has a purpose. Guess who decides what that purpose is. ME. I decide what my purpose in life is, and my purpose in life is to investigate, to learn things, to fill mu head with things that are true and reject as many false things as I can. My purpose in life is to help people do the same, to criticize religions, to mock faith, etc.
Many things in life are worth living and the fact that you believe you actually need god to enjoy life, to be happy, to love others IS OFFENSIVE. That only shows how desperate you really are and how much you want this to be true. It may also explain why you reject all the evidence against it.
I was in your shoes years ago. I was actually raised to believe that I was born in sin, lived to sin and that there is nothing I can do to stop that sinful nature. I was taught that we deserve to be punished for this nature, and that the punishment is eternal.
This is immoral, it is inhumane, amoral and disgusting by any standard. The god you worship is a figment of your imagination, it is not moral and it is immoral. Would you punish someone ETERNALLY for a FINITE crime? NO YOU WOULNDT and I am glad our justice system does not work that way.
This is the reason why I do this, and I enjoy it, I love it. My life has meaning and just because I dont believe in god doesnt mean my life is void of meaning. In fact t has MORE MEANING than before. Before all my life was about was licking the balls of a god that created me in sin and was going to punish me for something that HE KNEW would happen. That is all... that was all that my life was about. Worshiping a god who does not care what you do, what you feel what you think... he just cares if you believe and love him. HOW HUMAN IS THAT? thats is not divine that is more human than anything else. it is selfish, self centered, redundant, circular, immoral STUPID.
You cant believe such a silly story...
How do YOU find meaning in this? How does a doctrine that says that this life is irrelevant and that the one that really matters is the one after it make you feel? Why would you even get up in the morning if what you do here is really irrelevant?
If you really think that what matters is the life after this life and that this place is just a place to wipe your feet before you go on and enjoy the blessings of your sky daddy DONT QUESTION MY MOTIVES AND DO NOT QUESTION MY MEANING OF LIFE. Start thinking about what is keeping you from killing yourself.
You have not provided any evidence for the existence of god.
All you have done is appeals to emotion, pascal's wager and you have tried to scare me into your belief. You have presented no argument that would stand for even a second in a court of law, you have not presented any arguments that stand on their own merits.
And I dont think you will.
I think this conversation is over, you have shown to me nothing to support your claims and I am gonna go ahead and say you forfeited.
Peace, think free and may the force be with you.
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